Episode 54: Jim Rutt on Creating a Better Society


Jim Rutt is a complexity researcher, systems thinker, podcaster, and former key player in several technology companies. The New York Times once referred to him as “the Internet’s bad boy” due to his reputation for creative mischief. Jim is the past Chairman of the Santa Fe Institute, former CEO of Network Solutions, and the first CTO of Thomson-Reuters.

We discuss the divide between fixing the institutions and fixing ourselves – and why the real work is in fixing ourselves through self-actualization, Jordan Hall’s Game A vs. Game B and what it takes to be a Game B “vulcan spartan” early adopter. 

Let’s go to the show! Note: We use adult language in this episode.  


Jordan Hall 

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